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Richard Tice: unanswered questions on £120k unpaid REIT tax


Richard Tice isn’t denying that Quidnet REIT, his property company, failed to pay around £120,000 of tax when it paid dividends to Mr Tice and his offshore trust. He says it doesn’t matter, because he paid tax in full. That’s wrong: Quidnet’s failure to withhold REIT tax was unlawful, and the £120,000 remains due.

But perhaps more importantly, Mr Tice is failing to answer two critical questions. Did his offshore trust pay any tax on the dividends? And did he and his trust pay tax at the correct rate?

Our original report on the £120,000 tax issue is here. The point was first identified by Gabriel Pogrund of The Sunday Times; we assisted with the story. The Sunday Times’ report is here.

What we know went wrong with Quidnet’s tax

From 2018 to 2021, Quidnet was a REIT – a real estate investment trust.

Here’s a dividend declaration from Quidnet, alongside a declaration from another REIT, Glenstone.

Quidnet dividend declaration showing no property income distribution
Glenstone REIT showing declaration of a property income distribution

There’s a telling difference. Glenstone says it’s declaring a “Property Income Distribution”. Quidnet says that it’s declaring a “dividend”.

REITs are exempt from tax on the income and gains from their UK property business. The quid pro quo is that, when they pay their profits to shareholders, it’s not a normal dividend – it’s a “property income distribution”.

A normal dividend – as would be paid by e.g. Tesco plc – has no withholding tax. A UK individual or trust shareholder pays tax at the top rate of 39.35% when they file their tax return in January of the following tax year.

A property income distribution – as is usually paid by REITs – has 20% withholding tax immediately. A UK individual or trust shareholder pays tax at the top rate of 45%, in the January of the following tax year with a credit for the tax withheld – so really a 25% top-up.

Glenstone fully understands this. It looks like Quidnet and its advisers didn’t understand this, and treated all their dividends as normal dividends. So Quidnet paid about £270k to Mr Tice and £330k to his offshore trust, without any withholding tax.

What we don’t know about Mr Tice and his offshore trust

This was a surprising error for a REIT and its advisers to make – it’s a very basic and fundamental REIT point. We don’t know how the error was made, but there are broadly two ways it could have played out:

1. The REIT got it wrong. Everyone else got it right.

In this scenario, the REIT got it wrong, and thought it was paying normal dividends – so didn’t withhold. But the shareholders got it right, and realised it was a property income distribution.

So Mr Tice and his trust both paid tax at 45% – the correct treatment.

Mr Tice can say that this was a mere technical failure and HMRC wasn’t out of pocket. It is, however, more than that: Mr Tice obtained an unlawful tax benefit – the 20% was paid up to 21 months later than it should have been. And Mr Tice’s payment didn’t fix the company’s failure to withhold tax – the tax remains due.

2. Everyone got it wrong

In this scenario, everyone acted consistently, and thought Quidnet was paying a normal dividend.

The REIT didn’t withhold. Mr Tice paid tax at 39.35%. The offshore trust either paid tax at 39.35%, or didn’t pay tax at all.

In this scenario, HMRC is most definitely out of pocket, and Mr Tice and/or the trust owe tax, plus interest and probably penalties.

Which scenario are we in?

Richard Tice isn’t saying.

In his own statements and Reform UK’s statements they’re clear that Mr Tice paid tax, but they’re not saying anything about the rate he paid, and not mentioning the trust at all.

We asked Mr Tice’s lawyer these questions yesterday, but didn’t receive a response:

Dear Mr Lewis, Your client is now saying he paid tax on the dividends. Did he pay tax at the dividend rate of 39.35% or the standard 45% rate? And your client is not saying anything about whether his offshore trust paid tax on the dividends. Did it? If it did, at what rate? I’d be grateful for a response by 5pm today. If his team need longer to pull out those tax returns then do please let me know. Yours sincerely, Dan Neidle

These are very easy questions to answer: one look at the tax returns will show whether the dividends were correctly reported as “other income” or, incorrectly, as “dividend income”.

We will update this article if Mr Tice responds.


Many thanks to Gabriel Pogrund of the Sunday Times, who discovered this story, and to K and M for the REIT and accounting analysis that underpins this and our original report.

Photo of Richard Tice by Laurie Noble, licensed under CC BY 3.0



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